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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:30 pm    Post subject: About the signatures of Apple Developer Team... Reply with quote

One Collector asked me:
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I'm looking for one Mac Plus with signature of Mac Team.
But, in which model we can find this signature???
128K, 512K, classic, Plus??? What you have ready to sell???
I'm waiting for your answer soon, and thank you!


Hello,
I have selected the Mac Plus I would sell from my collection and added some pictures in the mail.
I am very bussy with my work actually, so I need to look for a
Mouse and Keyboard at the weekend.

Here is the Mac Plus I would sell from my collection:
http://myoldmac.net/SELL/MacPlus.htm

About the signatures in Apple and Macintosh Computers:

The signatures of the people who contributed in the development
of the Apple and Macintosh computer.

On the Apple II GS "WOZ" edition you find a signature of Steve "WOZ"niak on the case front.
Released on Apple's 10th anniversary, the first 10,000 Apple IIGS
computers (GS = graphics + sound) have the signature of "Woz"
on the front. Woz is Steve Wozniak,
who single-handedly designed the first Apple computers, the
Apple I and the Apple II.



Here are the unique signatures of the developers of the Apple Lisa II,
this signatures appear only in the "Last Lisa Build Ever"
build on the 06.30.1985 in Carrollton, Texas.
Many thanks to Adam Goolevitch at http://macgeek.org for the picture.



You find signatures in the first 10.000 Mac 1984 (the first edition)



Even if Steve Wozniak did not work on the Mac his signature, (WOZ)
is in the right bottom corner.
This is the inside back cover of the Macintosh 128K, found at Dans Computer Museum


You find Jef Raskins, Andy Hertzfelds and Bruce Horns signatures only
at the left bottom corner of the Macintosh 1984, the Mac 128K and the 512K.
Later models miss them.

Here the signatures in an early Mac 512K model.
Thanks to our Forum Member Pep



You find signatures in the Macintosh Plus.
I think 70.0000 where produced with signatures.
This are the ones in the "platinum" case.



I copied this paper from my early "beige" Macintosh Plus, they are on
opaque gray ground like in the Macintosh 1984 above.
Please note: the signatures of Steve Jobs and 3 other Team Members
in the case middle are still intact,
in the Platinum Version (above) the signatures are only partial
due to a stronger plastik bone at the case back.



In early versions of the US Mac SE FDHD [Model M50011]
Thanks to our Forum member tano for the photo



I have heared from signatures (never saw) in the Apple II GS (inside the bottom of the case),
sadly in my Apple II GS are no signatures Cry:

The IIci has signatures of its development team on the casing underneath the motherboard. (I did not found some in mine)
The IIfx doesn't have signatures, but the names of the developers are printed on some of the motherboards near the back of the power supply.

Exclamation If you have photos of the signatures in the Apple II GS or Mac IIci, please send me a copy.
You can contact me through the index page of myoldmac.net


Question Do you know some more models with signatures?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:15 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

... firmas tambiÈn incluidas en mi Macintosh (512k) ED, tomarÈ algunas fotografÌas pronto...

... signatures included too in my Macintosh (512k) ED, I will take some pictures soon ...

ENLACE - LINK: Complete Developer Team signatures set
including Jef Raskin!

Saludos.

PEP.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

En la macintosh plus que tengo vienen las firmas pero en el acabado opaco,
(como el de tu primera foto de la mac 512 k), no en el acabado met·lico...
(gracias por subir la foto de la mac SE FDHD ;))
Saludos
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Translated: In the Macintosh Plus which I have are opaque finished
(like the one of your first photo of Mac 512 k), not in the finished metall...
(thanks to raise the photo of my Mac FDHD;))
Greetings
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:51 pm    Post subject: Its a "beige" Macintosh Plus! Reply with quote

tano, if the signatures in your Macintosh Plus are on an opaque ground,
it should be the first edition of the Mac Plus in the "beige" (more yellowed) case.

I have one beige Mac Plus too, it has its signatures on a opaque ground,
it seems to be a cover color above the case plastic.
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Translation (altavista.com) tano, si las firmas en su Macintosh Plus est·n en una tierra opaca, debe ser la primera ediciÛn del m·s del mac en (amarilleado) la caja "amarillenta". Tengo un Mac Plus "amarillento" m·s tambiÈn, Èl tengo sus firmas en una tierra opaca, Èl me parezco ser un color de la cubierta sobre el pl·stico del caso.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject: Special thanks to Andy Hertzfeld... Reply with quote

Special thanks to Andy Hertzfeld and http://Folklore.org for this information:

The component of the Macintosh hardware that had the longest lead time was the hard tool that molded its distinctive plastic case. After tweaking the case design for more than six months and building a small production run of 50 units with a soft-tooled case, the final design was ready to go out for hard tooling toward the end of February 1982, so we could meet the ship date that we were aiming for at the time, which was January 1983.

The Mac team had a complicated set of motivations, but the most unique ingredient was a strong dose of artistic values. First and foremost, Steve Jobs thought of himself as an artist, and he encouraged the design team to think of ourselves that way, too. The goal was never to beat the competition, or to make a lot of money; it was to do the greatest thing possible, or even a little greater. Steve often reinforced the artistic theme; for example, he took the entire team on a field trip in the spring of 1982 to the Louis Comfort Tiffany museum, because Tiffany was an artist who learned how to mass produce his work.

Since the Macintosh team were artists, it was only appropriate that we sign our work. Steve came up with the awesome idea of having each team member's signature engraved on the hard tool that molded the plastic case, so our signatures would appear inside the case of every Mac that rolled off the production line. Most customers would never see them, since you needed a special tool to look inside, but we would take pride in knowing that our names were in there, even if no one else knew.

We held a special signing party after one of our weekly meetings on February 10, 1982. Jerry Mannock, the manager of the industrial design team, spread out a large piece of drafting paper on the table to capture our signatures. Steve gave a little speech about artists signing their work, and then cake and champagne were served as he called each team member to step forward and sign their name for posterity. Burrell had the symbolic honor of going first, followed by members of the software team. It took forty minutes or so for around thirty-five team members to sign. Steve waited until last, when he picked a spot near the upper center and signed his name with a flourish.

We were aware that the team was still growing rapidly, and in a few months there would be a new crop of key contributors that also deserved to sign the case. We decided to draw the line at the date of the signing party, and not to let new signatures come in later, but we knew it would be tough to stick to that. We also wanted to add the signatures of a few major contributors who had left the project: Steve Wozniak, Jef Raskin and Bud Tribble. But that was supposed to be it.

Over the next few months, a few more signatures of people who weren't on the team at the time of the signing party managed to make it into the case. For a while Rod Holt held the line, but eventually Bob Belleville, who hired on in April 1982 as the software manager but soon became the overall engineering manager when Rod Holt retired, decided to add his own name. He also snuck in a few other key people, like marketing manager Mike Murray and original evangelist Mike Boich, who started before he did and who otherwise would have just missed the cut-off.

And then, over time, names gradually began to disappear for practical reasons, as Apple changed the case to make it easier to manufacture. Some details were changed even before first ship, partially obscuring some of the signatures. Each time the case was revised, more names were left off, as dictated by the nature of the revision, until a substantial number of them were gone. I'm not sure which model was the last to have any names at all, but I'm pretty sure that the Macintosh Classic, from the early nineties, didn't have any left.

Written by Andy Hertzfeld at folklore.org
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:01 pm    Post subject: I have too much photos... Reply with quote

In the Mac Portable (some models) - inside the bottom (base) of the case:

There is a hardware etch, where the proprammer's signatures are
etched in raised lettering inside the bottom (base) of the case.
There are 62 signatures, plus 7 names in 'type' under the heading "Product Design Team". Info: cupertino.de

After browsing through my picture collection I found two photos
of the Macintosh Portable signatures:


The signatures of the Developers.


The Names of the Product Developer Team.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a signed Mac at

http://www.techhouse.org/attic/2000-01/tour/rumpus.html



Technology House
Brown University
PO Box 6820
Providence RI 02912
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